This series analyses the 2016 presidential campaign with recaps of Alex Jones Show interviews with Larry Nichols, a Clinton insider from Arkansas days, terminally ill with cancer, and Roger Stone, Trump insider and veteran of five presidential campaigns beginning in 1964. See parts 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 if you missed them.
Nichols co-created the 1994 film The Clinton Chronicles and Stone co-authored The Clintons’ War on Women, published in 2015.
This post covers an interview with Roger Stone on September 20.
On Saturday, September 17, explosions occurred in and near New York City. These paralysed the area for three days:
New York Governor Andrew Cuomo said Sunday that “a bomb exploding in New York is obviously an act of terrorism” but Mayor Bill de Blasio refused to call it terrorism, saying only that it was an “intentional act.”
West Point went on lockdown on September 20:
after a motorist called State Police to say he spotted a driver who could be the suspect wanted in Saturday’s Manhattan bomb explosion enter the facility this morning …
Police in New York City released the name and photo of the man they are looking for as a possible suspect. He is Ahmad Khan Rahami, 28, a US citizen born in Afghanistan …
In the Chelsea explosion on Saturday, over two dozen people were wounded.
Also on Saturday, a bomb exploded before a charity 5K race in Seaside Park, New Jersey. No one was injured and authorities are working to determine if the incidents in both locations were connected.
Pipe bombs were also found in Elizabeth, New Jersey with one exploding.
Later that day, Stone, who divides his time between Manhattan and Florida, talked to Alex Jones and Paul Joseph Watson. He probably wished he were in Florida because:
The entire city is on lockdown.
Initially, rumours circulated that the Russians were to blame for the explosions. Stone called that an ‘absurdity’. Even then, narratives about Russians were creeping into the news.
Stone’s ‘big news’ was that Trump had pulled ahead in the polls a few days earlier. Stone pointed out that Hillary was changing her rhetoric as a result, aligning it with his in order not to lose more support. (The week before, she publicly claimed that Trump supporters — everyday Americans — were a ‘basket of deplorables’.)
He said that the electoral lock had been broken at that time, and Trump clearly had pathways to the necessary 270-vote majority.
He said that Hillary tried to tie Trump to David Duke again and prolong the birther accusations that Trump had just drawn a line under. Her tactics hadn’t worked and a new ‘level of desperation’ had set in. The Democrats were in panic.
He reminded listeners that Hillary and the Democrats had no interest in improving the United States.
The unofficial Trump campaign mascot, Pepe the Frog, was the next topic of conversation. (Pepe, a comic book character, was resurrected by the ‘centipedes’ at Reddit’s The_Donald. Pepe’s creator Matt Furie said that the frog’s philosophy is ‘Feels good, man’.)
Big Media and Hillary said that Pepe was racist, because late last year some gamers made him into a Nazi character. I’ve seen plenty of Pepes but never those. Therefore, I think it is a fake news story. However, that did not prevent Hillary from mentioning Pepe in one of her speeches and tagging Trump supporters as ‘racists’. You can see photos of them here.
Paul Joseph Watson said the Pepe furore reminded him of the increased hostility towards Brexit supporters after Jo Cox’s murder. Stone said the verbal attacks and accusations from Democrat operatives were staggering. He said he had even been accused online of causing the weekend attacks in the New York area. He thought David Brock was responsible because Brock created bots that can generate messages (allegedly, I add).
Voter fraud and election stealing came up. Stone was concerned that, if the Democrats stole the election, the Republicans would not be able to investigate it.
By way of explanation, this ‘consent decree’ dates back to 1982:
… it was the modern Republican party that was forced into a settlement agreement in 1982, and which has been unable to extricate itself from that agreement over the past 30 years.
The DNC had filed a lawsuit against the RNC in 1981, following accusations that the RNC had engaged in “voter caging”: a practice used to identify and disenfranchise improperly registered voters solely on the basis of an undeliverable mailing …
Rather than fight a costly legal battle in court, the RNC decided to settle by entering into a consent decree with the DNC.
That includes not requesting an investigation into voter fraud or election recounts. As a commenter (Pitcher) at The Blaze wrote after Mitt Romney’s loss in 2012:
The GOP made an agreement with the DNC in 1982 not to be able to challenge voter fraud. Holder’s basis for not letting some states have photo ID was the law referred to in this 30 yr old agreement. I’m outraged it’s been kept from us. You can’t do anything about Dem voter fraud. That’s why they have been so silent about fraud.
Over the years, the GOP has tried to vacate this consent decree but to no avail. The courts deny the requests. It is currently in effect until December 2017.
Back to Stone. Haiti was a hot topic because Trump had visited Miami’s Little Haiti on September 16. Although there were protesters outside, inside the Cultural Center, prominent Haitians expressed their anger with the Clinton Foundation for promised money that they never saw after the 2010 earthquake:
Leonce Thelusma, a former Haitian finance minister and a registered Republican, said his support for Trump will depend on the candidate’s stance on helping Haiti and Haitians. Clinton, he said, has little to show for her and her husband’s involvement in Haiti, where most recently Bill Clinton served as U.N. special envoy and czar of the recovery effort after the quake.
“No Haitian has benefited from that,” he said. “It’s unfortunate that we don’t have any institutions in Haiti that can call him and demand that he gives an account of the [earthquake] money.”
The matter also surfaced in the Podesta WikiLeaks, in email 6900 dated March 21, 2015 from journalist Brent Budowsky to John Podesta, titled ‘Warning to Hillary Clinton’:
It was not uplifting to learn in recent hours that problems with foreign donations to the Clinton Foundation continue, Hillary Clinton was still making paid speeches for hire this week, and Tony Rodham [Hillary’s brother] is hustling gold mining deals in Haiti.
From the minute the email story broke I have been out there publicly and unequivocally supporting Hillary Clinton in multiple ways in multiple media unlike many Democrats and unlike most in the media …
… here is my toned down advice which I seriously doubt the Clintons are hearing from those close to them, and if they are hearing it, they are not understanding it.
If there is one thing that could well bring down a Hillary Clinton candidacy it is this cycle of money issues about which I am now feeling red alerts, loud bells, warning signals, and red flags …
Hillary had not announced her candidacy at that point. As we know, Budowsky had nothing to worry about. The media were too busy piling in on Trump. However, once Trump assumes office, this could become a major story next year.
Stone hoped Trump would expose the scandal on the campaign trail. (The Trump campaign issued a statement instead. It’s important to him, but it was a topic that would not resonate with voters who are more interested in Making America Great Again.)
Stone also raised the Muammar Gaddafi story, again with no details. Maybe this will emerge next year, too.
Conflict with Russia was the last topic of conversation. Watson and Stone discussed the likelihood of the Obama or Hillary administration attacking the country. Watson thought it could start with the US shooting down a jet. Stone thought it was more likely to be a civilian-on-civilian incident. He said that the Clintons are:
capable of absolutely everything.
Let’s fast forward to what is happening today. Big Media are spreading the narrative that Trump’s victory is illegitimate. Again, Russia somehow hacked the election. A good example of this is an MSNBC discussion that took place on December 12:
Hugh Hewitt and Joan Walsh faced off on how Russian hacking may have affected the U.S. presidential election and Democrats are using it to “delegitimize” President-elect Trump. Hewitt accused Walsh of being in the “election-denier” camp.
Hewitt said it is not Donald Trump’s fault that Clinton had a private server and the Obama administration conducted poor foreign policy …
“Have you noticed in the way that Donald Trump is reacting to these revelations, to the news of at least what the CIA is claiming right now here? Does he seem too defensive? Does he seem too hostile to the apparent conclusions of the intelligence community?” MSNBC’s Steve Kornacki asked Hugh Hewitt.
“No, I think he seems abrupt because it’s silly,” Hewitt responded. “I think the whole thing is silly.
“It’s silly?” an incredulous Walsh reacted.
“What we face here, Steve, and Joan knows this too, is an attempt to delegitimize a Trump election by saying it’s [FBI] Director Comey’s fault,” Hewitt said to a visually stunned Joan Walsh. “Secretary Clinton came out and said ‘fake news’ last week. This week their blaming the Russians when we all should be recognizing, and not being an election-denier, it sounds like Joan is going in the election-denier camp.
“No, I’m not,” Walsh responded. “This is a really serious issue!” …
“What the left is trying to do, and Joan is very good at it, is to progressively delegitimize Donald Trump’s presidency. He won and fake news doesn’t change it and Director Comey doesn’t change it.
“He lost by almost 3 million votes,” Walsh shot back.
“And the popular vote also doesn’t matter because the constitutional majority is the electoral college and next week the electoral college makes him president for final and for good,” Hewitt reminded her.
That’s it in a nutshell. Unfortunately, from what I have read over the past week, some Americans are beginning to believe the propaganda.
This is why Trump is doing a thank you tour. He wants to remain firmly in the public eye. He wants the campaign momentum to continue — even during a busy Christmas season.