Prejudice

Mike has grappled, at OoL, with this neverending issue in the light of the Rivers of Blood anniversary:

Enoch Powell was off target, but only by 50 years and 108 degrees of Longitude.

Mike’s an old codger like me anyway – who listens to us? Plus we’re male. Though Mike might call me a youngster trying to teach his elders to suck eggs, he might not, LOL.

My comment was:

Interesting is the immigrant from decades ago, came in the hard way, paid his dues, his name now tarnished with all these freeloaders the governments have colluded in flooding us with.

A test of prejudice is Raheem Kassam of Breitbart. At a table sat Tommy Robinson and crew, plus Raheem who was, to put it mildly, on song with the message about “we British”. In his non-phlegmatic effusiveness, he did not completely fit in there, and yet was born here, legally British.

Cut to Tommy Robinson sitting with three “foreigners” Sellner, Southern and Pettibone – Austrian, Canadian and American – and yet they fitted like hand in glove. From look to manner to habits – they were us.

The question of identity is fraught – what constitutes it? I’d suggest that culture is a major factor. On the other hand, being born here does and should confer rights.

Dave, a Geordie [now we can really get stuck into the prejudice, we can also stick the boot into a Brummie, TOWIE or Tyke], writes on Twitter:

Most people are not aware that EU people and other immigrants are in the UK and are terrorising charity shops,have no manners, barge past people, don’t say sorry.If good like us counties were not accepting scum our country would be healthy and help refugees.

Now that’s interesting. I’ve a sordid history of hobnobbing with foreign wimmin and one very close to me until I moved was a Hungarian lady – everything was good about her, from her manner to speaking – she taught me some rudimentary Magyar or whatever they call it. Her facial features were different to those of these islands – those cheekbones for example – and yet that sort of thing, plus her culinary tastes, were not in the least unpleasant, rather yummy actually.

Here’s a Hungarian family:

Makes you almost prejudiced against wimmin, don’t it?

But then I look at those bearded fanatics in white robes and want nothing to do with them – that is prejudice on my part beyond just ideology and behaviour.

So what about our homegrown meatheads, the left Millennials? Everything about them says “one of us” until you see the nose bones, the tatts, that Aintree look or even the spivvy suited ones I saw going for the train to Liverpool – dare to speak to them and be beaten up for your troubles?

So, prejudice is far more than just colour and ethnicity per se. How would I feel about Thomas Sowell or Candace Owen [US political pundits] living next door? Far better than Trudeau .. or Miranda Kerr who gives her neighbours such grief. I don’t want her anywhere near me – she even admits her day and night loud music. I’d certainly not want her touching me – we actually do know where it’s been.

And would you want this living next door to you?

Also, would you live in Islington or Croydon?  A rabid urban guerilla wrote about me a decade ago:

The Higham fellow is a pathetic, sick individual. He embodies every bit of superstitious belief, ritual, taboo, violence, viciousness, exploitation, and ignorance of any creed known to man. What an ignorant philistine he is. Imprecate vocabulary always is. [Tovarishch Will]

Wot, no camaraderie between old mates, me old China?  Prejudice – how to define it?  Does intelligence have ‘owt to do wi’it?  Do people who write “‘owt to do wi’it” turn one off?  Would you prefer an Essex girl and her football team?

Now to Van Diemen’s Land, almost always left off Olympic and otherwise maps of Australia – homogenous society?  Not a bit of it – full of lefty greenies – many in Hobart shun those in Launceston and Devonport.  You’ll find people in Launceston who’ve never been to Hobart and never would.  One of the funniest things I’ve seen from the downunders is them getting all hot under the collar gearing up for their Eurovision entry this year – LOL.

Let’s not even start on Celtic v Anglo and Brummie v Black Country. And speaketh not about Norfolk or Cambridge people full of guile, nor of Scottish sophistry.  Nor of Geordies [champion, champion].

What is prejudice?  Is it wrong in all respects? Just as a matter of interest – are you prejudiced against Bob Geldof and his wankery, against bad English, about poor vids and dated songs, not to mention Mondays?

10 comments for “Prejudice

  1. john in cheshire
    April 16, 2018 at 11:44 am

    If where you were born was the over riding factor in your nationality, the blacks in South Africa wouldn’t be exterminating the white South Africans.

    For me, it comes down to blood. If you haven’t got any English, Irish, Scottish our Welsh blood in you, you ain’t one of us. And never will be.

    • April 16, 2018 at 12:22 pm

      Agreed but I’m still very friendly with various people in France, Holland, the US etc. and though we’re obviously from different roots, apart from the Americans, I find it very difficult to see them as different – a meal, for example, would be roughly the same.

  2. Mark Collins
    April 16, 2018 at 1:59 pm

    I would venture there are 3 important parts to a persons makeup. All 3 are important and for you to resonate with them you need to share at least one of the following.
    Race
    Religion
    Culture

    • Voice of Reason
      April 16, 2018 at 8:18 pm

      I have had friends who fit none of these with my own.

  3. Mark Collins
    April 16, 2018 at 2:03 pm

    Race is very important to me because in my esoteric understanding
    Race = Blood = Ancestors = Belonging to a specific Place/Land

  4. rapscallion
    April 16, 2018 at 2:48 pm

    Being born in a particular place doesn’t make you what you are. A dog born in a stable is still a dog. It’s what happens after that makes you, but you can never escape what you were born as.

    I agree with Mark up to a point. My race is Caucasian. If you were to call nationality a “race” then you would 200 plus races – clearly an inanity. By that criteria. a Black Briton and a White Briton would be the same race – which is clearly not the case.

    It is more, I think, a case of ancestry, of culture, and perhaps allegiance.

    • Mark Collins
      April 16, 2018 at 3:21 pm

      Maybe, Ancestry = Race = Allegiance = Tribe
      Culture = Culture
      I feel religion is separate because some people are prepared to be led by artificial group think. Is that not what mainstream religions are all about, control of groups?

      Maybe the human races biggest failing is the belief in the concept of authority. i.e. A religious belief that certain people have authority over others.

  5. Voice of Reason
    April 16, 2018 at 8:17 pm

    I was born to an English father and Prussian mother, who raised me in four different countries and 20-some different houses.

    I am quite adaptable, and accept most reasonable people.

  6. April 17, 2018 at 1:51 am

    Blood has a long provenance. The ‘Englishman’ has Celt, Angle, Saxon, Roman, Dane, Scandanavian and French mingled together in perhaps tiny quantity.

    His culture has variously embraced tree-worship, great literature, Catholicism (diluted and morphed by Protestantism), scientific enlightenment, technology, the Sea and much conflict with furriners.

    All meld into a particular cake-mix that has risen and cooked within a white skin, largely untroubled by heavy sunshine.

    While peoples from elsewhere often try to emulate him, they will never be ‘English’. Indeed, they too have a role in that they are ‘other’, ostensively defining the boundary.

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