There were a few people not happy with my going after a dead woman, Diana, and calling her what the evidence left us in no doubt about it unless you feel 14 sex partners is a reasonably number in a short space of time, especially for The People’s Princess of Tony Blair.
However, let’s go after a living person instead this time – Bergoglio.
It’s about the Pope saying there’s no hell and then backtracking after the gaffe. The Vatican itself is now saying that the remarks were lost in translation. A reader at my place asked if he really had said that, so let’s look. Vox reports:
Speaking to the newspaper’s founder, journalist and atheist Eugenio Scalfari, Francis was quoted as saying of those who die in a state of mortal sin: “They are not punished. Those who repent obtain God’s forgiveness and take their place among the ranks of those who contemplate him, but those who do not repent and cannot be forgiven disappear. A hell doesn’t exist, the disappearance of sinning souls exists.”
Now I can make a case for the Catholic Church by flatly denying he was referring to mortal sin but Vox states that he was directly referring to it and Vox is a left-leaning site, although the placement of the inverted commas in that quote worries me a bit.
If the Pope was referring to mortal sin, then he is in theological error, as “mortal” is the one sin which cannot be forgiven.
“But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation” [Mark 3:29]
And he has form. Four Cardinals wrote to him on “the apostolic exhortation Amoris Laetitia”, plus 45 others approached him and were told where to go.
The Vatican replied on the “hell” issue through a Catholic site:
“Everyone has the right to write a letter to the pope, most of all the cardinals of the Roman church,” said Müller, speaking Sunday evening in an interview with Italian TV channel Tgcom24. “However, what astonished me is that it was made public, trying to force the pope to say yes or no. I do not like this.”
“It harms the church to talk about these things in public,” the cardinal continued. “Amoris Laetitia is very clear in its doctrine and we can read into it all of Jesus’ doctrine on marriage, all the doctrine of the church in its 2,000 year history.”
It harms the church to talk about these things in public – now where else have we heard similar? Over David Kelly under Blair? The Vatican’s rebuttal is on the translation of the “hell” comment and on not publicizing it, not on mortal sin itself.
# His most infamous statement was: “Inequality is the root of social evil.” [April 28, 2014] Original sin is the root of all evil – any Christian knows that much theology.
# “Women in the church are more important than priests and bishops.” [June 28th, 2013, on a flight to Rome]
# In direct reply to a question on the church and homosexuality: “God is not afraid of new things. That is why he is continuously surprising us, opening our hearts and guiding us in unexpected ways.” He answers a fair question with a truth out of context, making it a lie.
# “Climate change, the loss of biodiversity and deforestation are already showing their devastating effects in the great cataclysms we witness.” How about the Islamic overrunning of Europe and the rest of the west? Not a word.
# “’The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone!’ ‘Father, the atheists?’ ‘Even the atheists. Everyone!'”
John Chapter 3 begs to differ. Redemption is for those who believe.
# Everyone, eh? Then what about this – Christian News September 3rd, 2014, quotes him:
“The Christian who does not feel that the Virgin Mary is his or her mother is an orphan,” he Tweeted on Tuesday, a post that generated much criticism from around the world.
Romans 8:15-16: “The Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship … The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children.”
The best that can be said is that he is just theologically inept, hence the backlash within the church, not least on Amoris Laetitia. But anyone seeing the one world government global marxist zeal preceding any new pronouncement from him has other grave concerns as well.